NY Times Speculation That Iran Already Has Nuclear Weapons

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NY Times Speculation That Iran Already Has Nuclear Weapons

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[Editorial Note: There follows information about the NY Times speculation that I posted on 9/8/2013 as the Second Reply to the Original Proposal.]
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In the last paragraph of John Karls’ foregoing proposal, he states that he hasn’t been aware of any speculation that Iran already has nuclear weapons.

This despite, as John states, it was widely reported that “there was an incredibly-large delegation of Iran’s nuclear scientists in attendance” at the 2/10/2013 nuclear test in North Korea.

However, the New York Times did report that the Obama Administration recognized the possibility that the North Koreans were permitting Iran to test one of its nuclear weapons in North Korea. Implying without stating that in the wake of the successful 2/10/2013 test, Iran does in fact have fully-tested fully-operation nuclear weapons which can be delivered by suitcase if not by missile.

The N.Y. Times report is contained in a 2/11/2013 article entitled “North Korea Confirms It Conducted 3rd Nuclear Test” by David E. Sanger and Choe Sang-Hun.

David Sanger is the Chief Washington Correspondent for the N.Y. Times and Choe Sang-Hun is a Pulitzer-Prize winning South Korean journalist for the N.Y. Times.

The 15th paragraph of their article states --

“The Iranians are also pursuing uranium enrichment, and one senior American official said two weeks ago that ‘it’s very possible that the North Koreans are testing for two countries.’ Some believe that the country may have been planning two simultaneous tests, but it could take time to sort out the data.”

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With respect to the last sentence of the quoted paragraph, it is difficult to determine whether David Sanger and Choe Sang-Hun are naïve, mendacious or merely ill-informed!!! Or whether they are simply reporting the naïveté, mendacity or ignorance of others!!!

The idea of two simultaneous nuclear tests is risible!!!

Obviously, anyone who believed that two simultaneous nuclear tests had been planned, one for North Korea and one for Iran, has never read Seymour Hersh’s “The Samson Option: Israel’s Nuclear Arsenal & American Foreign Policy” (Random House – Oct 1991), and is ignorant of such joint ventures as the British-French Concorde and the European Airbus!!!

Seymour Hersh, who chronicled among other things how the mere existence of Israel’s nuclear weapons which would have destroyed half-a-dozen Soviet cities forced Henry Kissinger to save Israel from annihilation in the Yom Kippur War of 1973, also chronicled how the Israeli nuclear weapons had been developed jointly with the old Apartheid Regime of South Africa.

And, no, there were NOT separate Israeli and South African nuclear weapons detonated off the coast of Madagascar during hurricanes so as to be undetectable by American spy satellites. [One of which tests Hersh reported happened to detonate while the eye of a hurricane was passing over the site so that it was indeed caught by American spy satellites, causing the U.S. government to cover up for Israel by claiming that the initial media stories about the test were erroneous because the American spy satellites had malfunctioned.]

And, no, when Britain and France developed the commercial super-sonic passenger jet, they did NOT develop and test two different Concordes and then fly commercially two different Concordes for 27 years 1976-2003!!!

And, no, when Airbus which for decades has manufactured half of the world’s commercial aircraft, was formed by Britain, France and Germany, they did NOT test three different versions of each Airbus model so that British Airways, Air France and Lufthansa would merely be engaging in joint research following which each would fly different aircraft!!!

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So, David Sanger and Choe Sang-Hun, why would anyone think for a minute that unlike Israel and Apartheid South Africa on their nuclear-weapons program, unlike the Brits and French on the Concorde, and unlike the Brits, French and Germans on Airbus, the easily-inferable nuclear joint venture of North Korea and Iran is merely a nuclear-research joint venture rather than a nuclear-research-and-development joint venture???

Leading to the false conclusion that if it can be shown that there were not two separate nuclear tests on 2/10/2013, then there can be no nuclear joint venture between North Korea and Iran!!!

And so, David Sanger and Choe Sang-Hun, is the Red Herring described in the last sentence of your paragraph quoted above as believed by “some” merely your attempt to muddy the waters about the nuclear joint venture between North Korea and Iran, or are you actually reporting on an attempt by others to muddy the waters???

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