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The BBC’s Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister & The Deep State
Originally Posted in Section 2 (Possible Topics for Future Meetings) by johnkarls » Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:59 am
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The BBC’s Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister & The Deep State
I propose that we focus on “The BBC’s Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minster & The Deep State” IAW the following Ad Hoc Meeting proposal that was made during our recent sabbatical.
[The original proposal is located in Section 6.]
During the recent sabbatical from regular order during which Ad Hoc Meetings (i.e., sans the normal support of Short Quizzes and Suggested Discussion Outlines) and Working Groups (of which we had two) could still function, we discovered that beginning on or about 9/1/2018, more than a half dozen of the nation’s major e-mail providers were stealthily refusing to deliver our e-mails.
INCLUDING E-MAILS SENT TO SEVERAL OF MY OWN PERSONAL AND ORGANIZATIONAL E-MAIL ADDRESSES!!!
AND INCLUDING TO VIRTUALLY ALL OF OUR REGULAR 150 E-MAIL RECIPIENTS!!!
NB: THE US POSTAL SERVICE IS NOT PERMITTED TO STEAM OPEN US MAIL IN ORDER TO DECIDE WHICH ITEMS IT CHOOSES TO DELIVER IAW ITS POLITICAL PREFERENCES/PREJUDICES!!!
SO WHY SHOULD THE MAJOR E-MAIL PROVIDERS, WHICH HAVE VIRTUALLY DISPLACED THE US POSTAL SERVICE, BE PERMITTED TO DO SO???
Accordingly, Calls for an EMERGENCY meeting on the subject of “Political Censorship by Major E-mail Providers” were sent to our members on 10/29/2018 and posted on our bulletin board in Section 6.
The response???
Surprise, surprise -
Even though we had had 3 Ad Hoc Meetings during the first 4 months of the Sabbatical, we never mustered a quorum for any Ad Hoc Meetings during the last 8 months, including the EMERGENCY MEETING!!!
“The BBC’s Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister & The Deep State” was an Ad Hoc Meeting proposal made 2.5 months later in response to a considerable number of inquiries about what I had been reading and might be willing to discuss at an Ad Hoc Meeting.
The result???
Surprise, surprise –
“The BBC’s Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister & Deep State” proposal failed to muster a quorum!!!
The reason for mentioning here so much information about the 10/29/2018 EMERGENCY proposal???
The second so-called “response” to this BBC/Deep State proposal contains additional information about the censorship of Major E-mail Providers against our organization during the intervening 2.5 months.
The BBC’s Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister & The Deep State
Originally proposed by johnkarls » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:12 pm
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From: ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com
To: ReadingLiberallyEmailList@johnkarls.com
Bcc: The Approximately 150 Recipients of Our Weekly E-mail
Subject: The BBC’s Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister & The Deep State – Wed Evening Feb 13 or Feb 20 – Please RSVP by This Sun Evening
Date: To be sent pre-dawn on Sat, January 12, 2019
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[The text of this e-mail is redacted because it does not relate to Political Censorship by Major E-mail Providers.]
Political Censorship Info in BBC Yes Minister Topic Proposal
Proof That Responses Are Welcome Even If Off Topic
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Originally Posted by johnkarls » Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:00 am
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Proof That Responses Are Welcome Even If Off Topic
Originally posted in Section 6 by johnkarls » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:53 am
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[The text of this so-called Reply is redacted because it does not relate to Political Censorship by Major E-mail Providers.]
Originally Posted by johnkarls » Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:00 am
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Proof That Responses Are Welcome Even If Off Topic
Originally posted in Section 6 by johnkarls » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:53 am
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[The text of this so-called Reply is redacted because it does not relate to Political Censorship by Major E-mail Providers.]
Continuing Sabotage of Our E-mails By Major E-mail Providers
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Originally Posted in Section 2 (Possible Topics for Future Meetings) by johnkarls » Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:01 am
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Continuing Sabotage of Our E-mails By Major E-mail Providers
Originally posted in Section 6 by johnkarls » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:24 am
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Subject: Forgot To Mention Our Continuing Reading Liberally Email Woes
From: john@johnkarls.com
Date: Fri, January 18, 2019 7:07 am MST
To: George Kunath
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Dear George,
During our weekly Skype gabfest last Monday, you asked whether anyone else had responded to the suggested Feb meeting on The Deep State.
And I responded that nobody else had.
What I forgot to mention was that Dreamhost -- my own webhost for both the RL website and six e-mail addresses, one of which is ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com from which were sent the two batches of the notice (Dreamhost limits the number of Cc's/Bcc's to 100/hour) -- had (1) put my own john@johnkarls.com Bcc copy that I always put at the end of each batch in the SPAM FOLDER of john@johnkarls.com from which it disappeared 24 hours later (which SPAM FOLDER did not exist prior to last Sep and has never been authorized by me)!!! and (2) bounced my own ReadingLiberallyEmailList@johnkarls.com (which has always for 13 years been the "To" addressee for each batch) with the false claim that that e-mail address does not exist!!!
No excuses for this behavior because it was Dreamhost on both the sending and receiving end of these two "To" addresses and these two "Bcc" addresses!!!
FYI, there follows the 11/8/2018 e-mail to our 154 members via 128 e-mail addresses regarding our final test e-mail sent to 113 e-mail addresses (128 minus 11 responses to prior tests and minus the 4 e-mail addresses which originally alerted us to the problem).
[It appears in the fifth section of http://www.ReadingLiberally-SaltLake.org entitled “Another John Karls Sabbatical To Write Another Book” as part of the currently-fifth posting entitled “EMERGENCY – Political Censorship by Major E-mail Providers.”]
Of the 113 e-mail addresses to which the final test e-mail was sent from my emergency e-mail account at johnspencerkarls@gmail.com, 98 of the 113 Bcc addressees rejected the 11/3/2018 “SECOND REQUEST” e-mail INCLUDING MY OWN john@johnkarls.com!!! And MY OWN ReadingLiberallyEmailList@johnkarls.com (the “To” Addressee) also rejected the 11/3/2018 “SECOND REQUEST” e-mail!!!
As described in the 11/8/2018 e-mail, I did investigate and Dreamhost said that I would have to obtain from g-mail the specific reason that was sent by them to g-mail for the rejections (Dreamhost claimed not to retain such explanations) and g-mail would only provide generic reasons why e-mails are rejected (such as no such e-mail address) and would not produce the specific reason(s) provided by Dreamhost.
So I'm guessing that very few of the e-mail notices for the Feb meeting on The Deep State actually got through.
Especially since at this time of year, 5-6 of the addressees will at least respond by saying if they are not able to attend, that we should at least rendezvous for skiing.
I am guessing that for any future communications to our 154 members, it will be necessary first to contact each individually from a brand-new e-mail address to request an affirmative response whether s/he wishes to continue to receive our e-mails.
And then conduct a batch e-mail test from the brand-new e-mail address requesting affirmative responses from everyone that s/he actually received the batch test.
Enough already!!! Just wanted to get this on the record in case I forget again next Monday.
Your friend,
John K.
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From: ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com
To: ReadingLiberallyEmailList@johnkarls.com
Bcc: The Approximately 150 Recipients of Our Weekly E-mail
Subject: Update Re: READING LIBERALLY EMERGENCY MEETING – Political Censorship by Major E-mail Providers – Wed Nov 14 – Proposed “Six-Degrees-Of-Separation” E-mail Campaign
Date: Thu, November 8, 2018 1:47 am MST
Attachments:
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Dear Friends,
Our original 10/28/2018 e-mail (a copy of which follows below for your convenience) explained its raison d’être -- that we had become aware that on or about September 1, 2018, major e-mail providers (INCLUDING G-MAIL, YAHOO, COMCAST, VERIZON AND DREAMHOST) suddenly began routing e-mail they deemed to be conservative into their subscribers’ SPAM folders from which the e-mails would soon disappear into cyber-space, while continuing to route e-mail they deemed to be liberal into their subscribers’ REGULAR in-baskets.
It further noted that absent a court order, it is A MAJOR-LEAGUE CRIME for your U.S. Postal Service letters to be steamed open by the U.S. Government and read in order to determine whether the U.S. Government thinks your letters are liberal or conservative in order to decide whether to deliver them.
Accordingly, it noted that such censorship can easily lead to the DEATH OF DEMOCRACY and posited that since e-mail providers are now functioning as an unofficial U.S. Postal Service, our organization should mount one of our “Six-Degrees-Of-Separation E-mail” Campaigns -- this one aimed at extending to e-mail providers the same rules and regulations that apply to U.S. Postal Service letters.
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UPDATE RE OUR ORIGINAL 10/28/2018 E-MAIL
There were 13 responses to our 10/28/2018 e-mail, all saying that they had received copies of the e-mail from both ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com and john.karls@yahoo.com.
By way of background, there are currently 154 individuals who receive our e-mails via 128 e-mail addresses, 26 of which are shared by two of our organization’s participants.
So subtracting from the 128 e-mail addresses 11 responses that were received immediately and the 4 that had originally demonstrated the problems with G-MAIL, YAHOO, COMCAST, VERIZON AND DREAMOST, there were 113 e-mail addresses for which we HAD NO WAY OF KNOWING whether they had NOT received our 10/28/2018 e-mails or whether they had merely failed to respond.
Accordingly, on 11/3/2018, an e-mail was sent to each of these 113 e-mail addresses FROM MY SECONDARY EMERGENCY E-MAIL ADDRESS johnspencerkarls@gmail.com with the subject “READING LIBERALLY EMERGENCY -- SECOND REQUEST.”
Its text comprised the original 10/28/2018 e-mail preceded by the following message --
“Re: Political Censorship by Major E-mail Providers such as G-MAIL, YAHOO, COMCAST, VERIZON AND DREAMHOST
“Dear Friends,
“Nothing has been heard from you in response to the following e-mail.
“So that our information is as complete and accurate as possible, could you please –
(1) Hit your Reply Button if you receive this e-mail; AND
(2) Simply type as the return text whether you did receive our original October 28 e-mail from ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com.
“Thank you.
“Your friend,
“John K.”
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THE INEXCUSABLE RESULTS FROM THE “SECOND REQUEST”
My johnspencerkarls@gmail.com e-mail account reported that 98 of the 113 Bcc addressees had rejected the 11/3/2018 “SECOND REQUEST” e-mail INCLUDING MY OWN john@johnkarls.com!!!
[I always include my primary personal e-mail address at the end of each batch of Bcc addresses.]
In addition my johnspencerkarls@gmail.com e-mail account reported that MY OWN ReadingLiberallyEmailList@johnkarls.com (the “To” Addressee) had also rejected the 11/3/2018 “SECOND REQUEST” e-mail!!!
EVEN MORE EGREGIOUSLY/MYSTERIOUSLY, the 11/3/2018 e-mail had been sent 7 minutes earlier AS A TEST solely to john@johnkarls.com with no copies, and it had sailed through with no problem!!!
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MY INVESTIGATION WITH G-MAIL AND DREAMHOST (the webhost for http://www.johnkarls.com)
As already described in our original 10/28/2018 e-mail to everyone, DREAMHOST was one of the e-mail host providers that had suddenly, on or about 9/1/2018, begun sending to my SPAM folder e-mails that appeared to be conservative while continuing to let liberally-appearing e-mails sail through to my In-Basket -- EVEN THOUGH I HAD NEVER AUTHORIZED ANYTHING TO BE SENT TO MY SPAM FOLDER AND EVEN THOUGH NOTHING HAD EVER BEEN RELEGATED TO MY SPAM FOLDER PRIOR TO APPROXIMATELY 9/1/2018.
So I filed a formal inquiry with Dreamhost -- (1) why they had suddenly begun sending e-mail to my SPAM folder without authorization, (2) what their criteria were for sending e-mail to my SPAM folder, (3) why those criteria were satisfied by the Bcc copy of the 11/3/2018 e-mail BUT NOT satisfied by the TEST COPY of the same e-mail that was sent 7 minutes earlier directly to my e-mail address with no copies, and (4) what there was about the 11/3/2018 Bcc copy that caused Dreamhost to reject the Bcc copy 7 minutes later.
Dreamhost refused to answer Questions 1 and 2, and denied any knowledge of any rejections.
Dreamhost said further that any explanation for the rejections would have to come from G-MAIL which, if there had really been a rejection, would have received Dreamhost’s explanation which Dreamhost no longer had (if, indeed, there had been any rejections)!!!
Meanwhile, G-MAIL would only provide half-a-dozen generic reasons why e-mails are commonly rejected (such as “no such e-mail address”) BUT WOULD NOT PROVIDE ANY REASON WHY DREAMHOST HAD ALLEGEDLY REJECTED THE BCC E-MAIL!!!
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NEW REQUEST FOR EACH OF YOU
Each of you is requested to see whether you received our 11/3/2018 e-mail that had the subject of ““READING LIBERALLY EMERGENCY -- SECOND REQUEST.”
[This should be all of us except the 11 who responded immediately to our original 10/28/2018 e-mail -- FYI, the 2 who responded after 11/3/2018 were sent the 11/3/2018 “SECOND REQUEST” e-mail and G-MAIL reported that both rejected the 11/3/2018 e-mail.]
(1) If you received the 11/3/2018 e-mail, please hit your Reply Button (no reply message is necessary).
(2) If you did NOT receive the 11/3/2018 e-mail (and did NOT respond to our original 10/28/2018 e-mail), then please contact your e-mail provider to see whether you can pry out of them why your Bcc copy of the 11/3/2018 e-mail was allegedly rejected by your e-mail provider.
And report back whatever you discover.
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PLEASE RSVP FOR OUR WED NOV 14 MEETING IF YOU HAVEN’T ALREADY
We do not yet have our minimum quorum of 6 for adopting an official “Six-Degrees-Of-Separation” E-mail Campaign.
Please RSVP by this coming Sunday evening so that a decision can be made whether to proceed with the meeting Wed Nov 14 from 7:00 pm – 9:00 pm at the Salt Lake Public Library (210 East 400 South).
All RSVP’s will be notified Monday morning whether the meeting is on.
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Thank you all for your efforts with regard to this imbroglio.
We hope to see all of you this coming Wednesday evening.
Your friend,
John K.
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From: ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com (second copy from john.karls@yahoo.com for reasons explained in the e-mail text)
To: ReadingLiberallyEmailList@johnkarls.com
Bcc: The Approximately 150 Recipients of Our Weekly E-mail
Subject: READING LIBERALLY EMERGENCY MEETING – Political Censorship by Major E-mail Providers – Wed Nov 7 or 14 – Proposed “Six-Degrees-Of-Separation” E-mail Campaign
Date: Mon, October 28, 2018 4:22 am MDT
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Dear Friends,
[This e-mail is being sent to each of you from two different e-mail addresses for reasons that are explained below.]
As you may recall, we are in the middle of another sabbatical so that I can write a second book, this one on the topic of “The National Audubon Society Executes Great Salt Lake Death Warrant.”
And that when this sabbatical began last July, we explained that just like the first sabbatical 4 years ago, everyone is invited to make Ad Hoc Meeting proposals (1) NONE of which will be promoted by short quizzes, suggested discussion outlines, etc., (2) but EACH of which that achieves our minimum quorum of six, will be authorized to initiate one of our “Six Degrees of Separation E-mail Campaigns” to our nation’s decision makers.
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“ALL-HANDS-ON-DECK” EMERGENCY – POLITICAL CENSORSHIP BY MAJOR E-MAIL PROVIDERS
We have become aware that on or about September 1, 2018, major e-mail providers (INCLUDING G-MAIL, YAHOO, COMCAST, VERIZON AND DREAMHOST) suddenly began routing e-mail they deemed to be conservative into their subscribers’ SPAM folders, while continuing to route e-mail they deemed to be liberal into their subscribers REGULAR in-baskets.
This was done WITHOUT the permission AND WITHOUT the knowledge of the e-mail subscribers.
THIS WAS EVEN DONE to e-mail subscribers who had NEVER requested any type of e-mails to be sent to their SPAM folders so that they were not even aware that some of their e-mails were suddenly being banished to a SPAM folder from which they were being deleted after a brief interval.
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COMPARISON WITH U.S. POSTAL LAW/REGULATIONS
Absent a court order, it is A MAJOR-LEAGUE CRIME for your letters to be steamed open by the U.S. Government and read in order to determine whether the U.S. Government thinks your letters are liberal or conservative in order to decide whether to deliver them.
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WHY THIS IS A NON-PARTISAN PUBLIC-POLICY ISSUE
We have always prided ourselves in being a NON-PARTISAN PUBLIC-POLICY STUDY GROUP that takes effective action.
Censorship leads to the DEATH OF DEMOCRACY!!!
Accordingly, it is respectfully suggested that, just like the U.S. Postal Service cannot censor letters, e-mail providers such as G-MAIL, YAHOO, COMCAST, VERIZON AND DREAMOST should NOT be permitted legally to censor e-mail by sending e-mail of which they disapprove politically, to their subscribers’ SPAM folders WITHOUT PERMISSION -- which permission, if solicited by the e-mail providers in terms of criteria for their SPAM determinations, should explicitly state whether the criteria could catch political speech in their dragnet!!!
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HOW WE BECAME AWARE OF THE CENSORSHIP BY MAJOR E-MAIL PROVIDERS
As many of you may recall, FOUR of our meetings over the past 17.5 months have focused on “Authoritarian Rule By Our Intelligence Services” starting with our 5/10/2017 meeting for which our focus book was George Orwell’s “1984” featuring “Big Brother.”
Just like censorship leads to the DEATH OF DEMOCRACY, the weaponization of our Intelligence Services can also lead to the DEATH OF DEMOCRACY.
Accordingly, we have treated the weaponization of our Intelligence Services as a non-partisan public-policy issue.
However, it would appear that the major e-mail providers such as G-MAIL, YAHOO, COMCAST, VERIZON AND DREAMHOST have interpreted our focus on the weaponization of our Intelligence Services as a partisan anti-liberal exercise since the weaponization was done 2016-2017 by Democrats.
[But query who will prevent Republicans from doing it in the future???]
So since beginning on or about September 1, our e-mails sent from ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com have been put into the SPAM folders of our approximately 150 members (at least so far as can be ascertained at this time) by G-MAIL, YAHOO, COMCAST, VERIZON AND DREAMHOST, it is respectfully suggested that effective action be undertaken to outlaw such behavior.
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YOUR IMMEDIATE ACTIONS ARE REQUESTED
(AND THE REASON FOR SENDING THIS E-MAIL TO YOU FROM TWO DIFFERENT E-MAIL ADDRESSES)
Since we have reason to believe that the copy of this e-mail being sent to you from ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com will go into your SPAM folder, a second copy is being sent to you from my emergency e-mail address john.karls@yahoo.com.
First requested action –
If you receive both e-mails in your regular in-box, please hit your Reply Button for the ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com copy (no return message will be necessary).
Second requested action –
If only the john.karls@yahoo.com copy appears in your regular in-box, please hit your Reply Button for it, but indicate whether the other copy went to your SPAM folder or disappeared into cyber-space.
Third requested action –
If you are able to attend an EMERGENCY MEETING on either Wed evening Nov 7 and/or Wed evening Nov 14, please examine your SPAM folder to see whether it contains our 10/6/2018 e-mail (with the subject of “Authoritarian Rule By Our Intelligence Services – Part IV) and to see whether your SPAM folder contains other conservative-sounding e-mails (and, if so, to pinpoint insofar as possible when such e-mails began appearing in your SPAM folder).
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RSVP’S REQUESTED FOR WED NOV 7 OR WED NOV 14
Please RSVP by tomorrow evening if you can attend our emergency meeting on either Wed evening Nov 7 and/or Wed evening Nov 14 at the Salt Lake Public Library (210 East 400 South) --
indicating, of course, which date(s) you are available.
[As usual, anyone who cannot attend in person is invited to participate by Skype.]
I will e-mail RSVP’s on this coming Wednesday morning which date is convenient for the greatest number of RSVP’s.
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THANK YOU!!!
And I hope to see each of you on either Nov 7 or Nov 14.
And please rest assured that whatever information you are able to provide IAW the “Your Immediate Action Requested” section above, will be compiled for incorporation into any “Six-Degrees-Of-Separation” E-mail Campaign that we undertake.
Your friend,
John K.
PS -- To unsubscribe, please press “reply” and type “deletion requested.”
Originally Posted in Section 2 (Possible Topics for Future Meetings) by johnkarls » Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:01 am
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Continuing Sabotage of Our E-mails By Major E-mail Providers
Originally posted in Section 6 by johnkarls » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:24 am
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---------------------------- Original Message -----------------------------
Subject: Forgot To Mention Our Continuing Reading Liberally Email Woes
From: john@johnkarls.com
Date: Fri, January 18, 2019 7:07 am MST
To: George Kunath
Attachment:
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Dear George,
During our weekly Skype gabfest last Monday, you asked whether anyone else had responded to the suggested Feb meeting on The Deep State.
And I responded that nobody else had.
What I forgot to mention was that Dreamhost -- my own webhost for both the RL website and six e-mail addresses, one of which is ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com from which were sent the two batches of the notice (Dreamhost limits the number of Cc's/Bcc's to 100/hour) -- had (1) put my own john@johnkarls.com Bcc copy that I always put at the end of each batch in the SPAM FOLDER of john@johnkarls.com from which it disappeared 24 hours later (which SPAM FOLDER did not exist prior to last Sep and has never been authorized by me)!!! and (2) bounced my own ReadingLiberallyEmailList@johnkarls.com (which has always for 13 years been the "To" addressee for each batch) with the false claim that that e-mail address does not exist!!!
No excuses for this behavior because it was Dreamhost on both the sending and receiving end of these two "To" addresses and these two "Bcc" addresses!!!
FYI, there follows the 11/8/2018 e-mail to our 154 members via 128 e-mail addresses regarding our final test e-mail sent to 113 e-mail addresses (128 minus 11 responses to prior tests and minus the 4 e-mail addresses which originally alerted us to the problem).
[It appears in the fifth section of http://www.ReadingLiberally-SaltLake.org entitled “Another John Karls Sabbatical To Write Another Book” as part of the currently-fifth posting entitled “EMERGENCY – Political Censorship by Major E-mail Providers.”]
Of the 113 e-mail addresses to which the final test e-mail was sent from my emergency e-mail account at johnspencerkarls@gmail.com, 98 of the 113 Bcc addressees rejected the 11/3/2018 “SECOND REQUEST” e-mail INCLUDING MY OWN john@johnkarls.com!!! And MY OWN ReadingLiberallyEmailList@johnkarls.com (the “To” Addressee) also rejected the 11/3/2018 “SECOND REQUEST” e-mail!!!
As described in the 11/8/2018 e-mail, I did investigate and Dreamhost said that I would have to obtain from g-mail the specific reason that was sent by them to g-mail for the rejections (Dreamhost claimed not to retain such explanations) and g-mail would only provide generic reasons why e-mails are rejected (such as no such e-mail address) and would not produce the specific reason(s) provided by Dreamhost.
So I'm guessing that very few of the e-mail notices for the Feb meeting on The Deep State actually got through.
Especially since at this time of year, 5-6 of the addressees will at least respond by saying if they are not able to attend, that we should at least rendezvous for skiing.
I am guessing that for any future communications to our 154 members, it will be necessary first to contact each individually from a brand-new e-mail address to request an affirmative response whether s/he wishes to continue to receive our e-mails.
And then conduct a batch e-mail test from the brand-new e-mail address requesting affirmative responses from everyone that s/he actually received the batch test.
Enough already!!! Just wanted to get this on the record in case I forget again next Monday.
Your friend,
John K.
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From: ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com
To: ReadingLiberallyEmailList@johnkarls.com
Bcc: The Approximately 150 Recipients of Our Weekly E-mail
Subject: Update Re: READING LIBERALLY EMERGENCY MEETING – Political Censorship by Major E-mail Providers – Wed Nov 14 – Proposed “Six-Degrees-Of-Separation” E-mail Campaign
Date: Thu, November 8, 2018 1:47 am MST
Attachments:
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Dear Friends,
Our original 10/28/2018 e-mail (a copy of which follows below for your convenience) explained its raison d’être -- that we had become aware that on or about September 1, 2018, major e-mail providers (INCLUDING G-MAIL, YAHOO, COMCAST, VERIZON AND DREAMHOST) suddenly began routing e-mail they deemed to be conservative into their subscribers’ SPAM folders from which the e-mails would soon disappear into cyber-space, while continuing to route e-mail they deemed to be liberal into their subscribers’ REGULAR in-baskets.
It further noted that absent a court order, it is A MAJOR-LEAGUE CRIME for your U.S. Postal Service letters to be steamed open by the U.S. Government and read in order to determine whether the U.S. Government thinks your letters are liberal or conservative in order to decide whether to deliver them.
Accordingly, it noted that such censorship can easily lead to the DEATH OF DEMOCRACY and posited that since e-mail providers are now functioning as an unofficial U.S. Postal Service, our organization should mount one of our “Six-Degrees-Of-Separation E-mail” Campaigns -- this one aimed at extending to e-mail providers the same rules and regulations that apply to U.S. Postal Service letters.
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UPDATE RE OUR ORIGINAL 10/28/2018 E-MAIL
There were 13 responses to our 10/28/2018 e-mail, all saying that they had received copies of the e-mail from both ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com and john.karls@yahoo.com.
By way of background, there are currently 154 individuals who receive our e-mails via 128 e-mail addresses, 26 of which are shared by two of our organization’s participants.
So subtracting from the 128 e-mail addresses 11 responses that were received immediately and the 4 that had originally demonstrated the problems with G-MAIL, YAHOO, COMCAST, VERIZON AND DREAMOST, there were 113 e-mail addresses for which we HAD NO WAY OF KNOWING whether they had NOT received our 10/28/2018 e-mails or whether they had merely failed to respond.
Accordingly, on 11/3/2018, an e-mail was sent to each of these 113 e-mail addresses FROM MY SECONDARY EMERGENCY E-MAIL ADDRESS johnspencerkarls@gmail.com with the subject “READING LIBERALLY EMERGENCY -- SECOND REQUEST.”
Its text comprised the original 10/28/2018 e-mail preceded by the following message --
“Re: Political Censorship by Major E-mail Providers such as G-MAIL, YAHOO, COMCAST, VERIZON AND DREAMHOST
“Dear Friends,
“Nothing has been heard from you in response to the following e-mail.
“So that our information is as complete and accurate as possible, could you please –
(1) Hit your Reply Button if you receive this e-mail; AND
(2) Simply type as the return text whether you did receive our original October 28 e-mail from ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com.
“Thank you.
“Your friend,
“John K.”
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THE INEXCUSABLE RESULTS FROM THE “SECOND REQUEST”
My johnspencerkarls@gmail.com e-mail account reported that 98 of the 113 Bcc addressees had rejected the 11/3/2018 “SECOND REQUEST” e-mail INCLUDING MY OWN john@johnkarls.com!!!
[I always include my primary personal e-mail address at the end of each batch of Bcc addresses.]
In addition my johnspencerkarls@gmail.com e-mail account reported that MY OWN ReadingLiberallyEmailList@johnkarls.com (the “To” Addressee) had also rejected the 11/3/2018 “SECOND REQUEST” e-mail!!!
EVEN MORE EGREGIOUSLY/MYSTERIOUSLY, the 11/3/2018 e-mail had been sent 7 minutes earlier AS A TEST solely to john@johnkarls.com with no copies, and it had sailed through with no problem!!!
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MY INVESTIGATION WITH G-MAIL AND DREAMHOST (the webhost for http://www.johnkarls.com)
As already described in our original 10/28/2018 e-mail to everyone, DREAMHOST was one of the e-mail host providers that had suddenly, on or about 9/1/2018, begun sending to my SPAM folder e-mails that appeared to be conservative while continuing to let liberally-appearing e-mails sail through to my In-Basket -- EVEN THOUGH I HAD NEVER AUTHORIZED ANYTHING TO BE SENT TO MY SPAM FOLDER AND EVEN THOUGH NOTHING HAD EVER BEEN RELEGATED TO MY SPAM FOLDER PRIOR TO APPROXIMATELY 9/1/2018.
So I filed a formal inquiry with Dreamhost -- (1) why they had suddenly begun sending e-mail to my SPAM folder without authorization, (2) what their criteria were for sending e-mail to my SPAM folder, (3) why those criteria were satisfied by the Bcc copy of the 11/3/2018 e-mail BUT NOT satisfied by the TEST COPY of the same e-mail that was sent 7 minutes earlier directly to my e-mail address with no copies, and (4) what there was about the 11/3/2018 Bcc copy that caused Dreamhost to reject the Bcc copy 7 minutes later.
Dreamhost refused to answer Questions 1 and 2, and denied any knowledge of any rejections.
Dreamhost said further that any explanation for the rejections would have to come from G-MAIL which, if there had really been a rejection, would have received Dreamhost’s explanation which Dreamhost no longer had (if, indeed, there had been any rejections)!!!
Meanwhile, G-MAIL would only provide half-a-dozen generic reasons why e-mails are commonly rejected (such as “no such e-mail address”) BUT WOULD NOT PROVIDE ANY REASON WHY DREAMHOST HAD ALLEGEDLY REJECTED THE BCC E-MAIL!!!
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NEW REQUEST FOR EACH OF YOU
Each of you is requested to see whether you received our 11/3/2018 e-mail that had the subject of ““READING LIBERALLY EMERGENCY -- SECOND REQUEST.”
[This should be all of us except the 11 who responded immediately to our original 10/28/2018 e-mail -- FYI, the 2 who responded after 11/3/2018 were sent the 11/3/2018 “SECOND REQUEST” e-mail and G-MAIL reported that both rejected the 11/3/2018 e-mail.]
(1) If you received the 11/3/2018 e-mail, please hit your Reply Button (no reply message is necessary).
(2) If you did NOT receive the 11/3/2018 e-mail (and did NOT respond to our original 10/28/2018 e-mail), then please contact your e-mail provider to see whether you can pry out of them why your Bcc copy of the 11/3/2018 e-mail was allegedly rejected by your e-mail provider.
And report back whatever you discover.
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PLEASE RSVP FOR OUR WED NOV 14 MEETING IF YOU HAVEN’T ALREADY
We do not yet have our minimum quorum of 6 for adopting an official “Six-Degrees-Of-Separation” E-mail Campaign.
Please RSVP by this coming Sunday evening so that a decision can be made whether to proceed with the meeting Wed Nov 14 from 7:00 pm – 9:00 pm at the Salt Lake Public Library (210 East 400 South).
All RSVP’s will be notified Monday morning whether the meeting is on.
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Thank you all for your efforts with regard to this imbroglio.
We hope to see all of you this coming Wednesday evening.
Your friend,
John K.
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From: ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com (second copy from john.karls@yahoo.com for reasons explained in the e-mail text)
To: ReadingLiberallyEmailList@johnkarls.com
Bcc: The Approximately 150 Recipients of Our Weekly E-mail
Subject: READING LIBERALLY EMERGENCY MEETING – Political Censorship by Major E-mail Providers – Wed Nov 7 or 14 – Proposed “Six-Degrees-Of-Separation” E-mail Campaign
Date: Mon, October 28, 2018 4:22 am MDT
Attachments:
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Dear Friends,
[This e-mail is being sent to each of you from two different e-mail addresses for reasons that are explained below.]
As you may recall, we are in the middle of another sabbatical so that I can write a second book, this one on the topic of “The National Audubon Society Executes Great Salt Lake Death Warrant.”
And that when this sabbatical began last July, we explained that just like the first sabbatical 4 years ago, everyone is invited to make Ad Hoc Meeting proposals (1) NONE of which will be promoted by short quizzes, suggested discussion outlines, etc., (2) but EACH of which that achieves our minimum quorum of six, will be authorized to initiate one of our “Six Degrees of Separation E-mail Campaigns” to our nation’s decision makers.
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“ALL-HANDS-ON-DECK” EMERGENCY – POLITICAL CENSORSHIP BY MAJOR E-MAIL PROVIDERS
We have become aware that on or about September 1, 2018, major e-mail providers (INCLUDING G-MAIL, YAHOO, COMCAST, VERIZON AND DREAMHOST) suddenly began routing e-mail they deemed to be conservative into their subscribers’ SPAM folders, while continuing to route e-mail they deemed to be liberal into their subscribers REGULAR in-baskets.
This was done WITHOUT the permission AND WITHOUT the knowledge of the e-mail subscribers.
THIS WAS EVEN DONE to e-mail subscribers who had NEVER requested any type of e-mails to be sent to their SPAM folders so that they were not even aware that some of their e-mails were suddenly being banished to a SPAM folder from which they were being deleted after a brief interval.
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COMPARISON WITH U.S. POSTAL LAW/REGULATIONS
Absent a court order, it is A MAJOR-LEAGUE CRIME for your letters to be steamed open by the U.S. Government and read in order to determine whether the U.S. Government thinks your letters are liberal or conservative in order to decide whether to deliver them.
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WHY THIS IS A NON-PARTISAN PUBLIC-POLICY ISSUE
We have always prided ourselves in being a NON-PARTISAN PUBLIC-POLICY STUDY GROUP that takes effective action.
Censorship leads to the DEATH OF DEMOCRACY!!!
Accordingly, it is respectfully suggested that, just like the U.S. Postal Service cannot censor letters, e-mail providers such as G-MAIL, YAHOO, COMCAST, VERIZON AND DREAMOST should NOT be permitted legally to censor e-mail by sending e-mail of which they disapprove politically, to their subscribers’ SPAM folders WITHOUT PERMISSION -- which permission, if solicited by the e-mail providers in terms of criteria for their SPAM determinations, should explicitly state whether the criteria could catch political speech in their dragnet!!!
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HOW WE BECAME AWARE OF THE CENSORSHIP BY MAJOR E-MAIL PROVIDERS
As many of you may recall, FOUR of our meetings over the past 17.5 months have focused on “Authoritarian Rule By Our Intelligence Services” starting with our 5/10/2017 meeting for which our focus book was George Orwell’s “1984” featuring “Big Brother.”
Just like censorship leads to the DEATH OF DEMOCRACY, the weaponization of our Intelligence Services can also lead to the DEATH OF DEMOCRACY.
Accordingly, we have treated the weaponization of our Intelligence Services as a non-partisan public-policy issue.
However, it would appear that the major e-mail providers such as G-MAIL, YAHOO, COMCAST, VERIZON AND DREAMHOST have interpreted our focus on the weaponization of our Intelligence Services as a partisan anti-liberal exercise since the weaponization was done 2016-2017 by Democrats.
[But query who will prevent Republicans from doing it in the future???]
So since beginning on or about September 1, our e-mails sent from ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com have been put into the SPAM folders of our approximately 150 members (at least so far as can be ascertained at this time) by G-MAIL, YAHOO, COMCAST, VERIZON AND DREAMHOST, it is respectfully suggested that effective action be undertaken to outlaw such behavior.
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YOUR IMMEDIATE ACTIONS ARE REQUESTED
(AND THE REASON FOR SENDING THIS E-MAIL TO YOU FROM TWO DIFFERENT E-MAIL ADDRESSES)
Since we have reason to believe that the copy of this e-mail being sent to you from ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com will go into your SPAM folder, a second copy is being sent to you from my emergency e-mail address john.karls@yahoo.com.
First requested action –
If you receive both e-mails in your regular in-box, please hit your Reply Button for the ReadingLiberally-SaltLake@johnkarls.com copy (no return message will be necessary).
Second requested action –
If only the john.karls@yahoo.com copy appears in your regular in-box, please hit your Reply Button for it, but indicate whether the other copy went to your SPAM folder or disappeared into cyber-space.
Third requested action –
If you are able to attend an EMERGENCY MEETING on either Wed evening Nov 7 and/or Wed evening Nov 14, please examine your SPAM folder to see whether it contains our 10/6/2018 e-mail (with the subject of “Authoritarian Rule By Our Intelligence Services – Part IV) and to see whether your SPAM folder contains other conservative-sounding e-mails (and, if so, to pinpoint insofar as possible when such e-mails began appearing in your SPAM folder).
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RSVP’S REQUESTED FOR WED NOV 7 OR WED NOV 14
Please RSVP by tomorrow evening if you can attend our emergency meeting on either Wed evening Nov 7 and/or Wed evening Nov 14 at the Salt Lake Public Library (210 East 400 South) --
indicating, of course, which date(s) you are available.
[As usual, anyone who cannot attend in person is invited to participate by Skype.]
I will e-mail RSVP’s on this coming Wednesday morning which date is convenient for the greatest number of RSVP’s.
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THANK YOU!!!
And I hope to see each of you on either Nov 7 or Nov 14.
And please rest assured that whatever information you are able to provide IAW the “Your Immediate Action Requested” section above, will be compiled for incorporation into any “Six-Degrees-Of-Separation” E-mail Campaign that we undertake.
Your friend,
John K.
PS -- To unsubscribe, please press “reply” and type “deletion requested.”
Administrative Post
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This is an administrative post to put the four items in this section in the chronological order in which they arose.
This is an administrative post to put the four items in this section in the chronological order in which they arose.
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